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From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc
Subject: Re: Novell's Lanwp and Kermit, mixed env
Message-Id: <1995Aug18.174403.59276@cc.usu.edu>
Date: 18 Aug 95 17:44:03 MDT
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In article <41316u$mul@jaws.cs.hmc.edu>, Jose Kirkland <jose_kirkland@email.pitzer.edu> writes:
> Hello, People!
>
> I have a problem (no!) in that we are running a group of Netware servers,
> and are slowly switching most of our folk onto Lan Workplace for the
> tcpip.... Many of them are fairly kermit dependent, though, and whenever
> they have the lanwp tcpip loaded, kermit fritzes out looking for a
> bootpd.
>
> I have the batch which kermit runs from set up to do a tcpip -u whenever
> kermit is trying to start, so that its own stack can play, which
> sometimes works, but if a user has done much since the lanwp stack was
> loaded, say, entered and exited windows, then it can't restore the int
> handler and the tcpip sticks and kermit bails, so an insufficient fix
> ultimately.
>
> So I downloaded the most recent Kermit, which is built to deal with the
> lanwp tcpip, and does so nicely, but the problem is that I have both
> users with and without lanwp, and can't determine how (or whether) I can
> configure kermit to operate with either. I need to make all of this as
> automated as possible, as my users tend to balk at things as complex as
> "cd ..".
>
> Any hints, or anyone who has had to get things set up for a fairly motley
> environment?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Josefa Kirkland
> pc/Novell spec
> jose@bernard.pitzer.edu
--------------
Sympathy but not much useful advice from our end. If users have
various programs loaded that require treatment before MS-DOS Kermit is
run then you will have to develop a strategy for discovering the individual
flavors. Recall that MSK also runs over TELAPI (Novell's Telnet layer to
apps) so at least you can continue to run MSK with LWP/DOS. And, Kermit
is able to read the DOS Environment so you can write scripts/macros which
react to information there; use \$(Environment variable name) to get the
variable's defining string. The NetWare login script can write to the
DOS master Environment; thus Kermit can respond to NW login scripts too.
My tuppence worth on users. They are a sly bunch, and they can do
marvelous things when enticed. Just watch what happens on 24 Aug no matter
what you advise. Full backups on 23 Aug is recommended.
Joe D.